While ELCA Lutherans were voting on "Is it OK to be gay?", a Tornado hit the buildling. Was God in the Storm?
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2009/augustweb-only/133.41.0.html
http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/1965_the_tornado_the_lutherans_and_homosexuality/
The vote passed, they voted "Yes".
An eye witness account follows:
I saw the fast-moving, misshapen, unusually-wide funnel over downtown Minneapolis from Seven Corners. I said to Kevin Dau, “That looks serious.â€
It was. Serious in more ways than one. A friend who drove down to see the damage wrote,
On a day when no severe weather was predicted or expected…a tornado forms, baffling the weather experts—most saying they’ve never seen anything like it. It happens right in the city. The city: Minneapolis.
The tornado happens on a Wednesday…during the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America’s national convention in the Minneapolis Convention Center. The convention is using Central Lutheran across the street as its church. The church has set up tents around it’s building for this purpose.
According to the ELCA’s printed convention schedule, at 2 PM on Wednesday, August 19, the 5th session of the convention was to begin.
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According to the ELCA’s printed convention schedule, at 2 PM on Wednesday, August 19, the 5th session of the convention was to begin. The main item of the session: “Consideration: Proposed Social Statement on Human Sexuality.†The issue is whether practicing homosexuality is a behavior that should disqualify a person from the pastoral ministry.
The eyewitness of the damage continues:
This curious tornado touches down just south of downtown and follows 35W straight towards the city center. It crosses I94. It is now downtown.
The time: 2PM.
The first buildings on the downtown side of I94 are the Minneapolis Convention Center and Central Lutheran. The tornado severely damages the convention center roof, shreds the tents, breaks off the steeple of Central Lutheran, splits what’s left of the steeple in two…and then lifts.
The only buildings the tornado hit was the Convention Center and the Lutheran Church, across the street, and the tents coneected with it.
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20 comments
Rene O on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
They’re lucky He didn’t send a hailstorm of brimstone!
Is it possible to be a gay Christian? If the phrase “gay Christian†refers to a person who struggles against homosexual desires and temptations – yes, a “gay Christian†is possible. However, the description “gay Christian†is not accurate for such a person, since he/she does not desire to be gay, and is struggling against the temptations. Such a person is not a “gay Christian,†but rather is simply a struggling Christian, just as there are Christians who struggle with fornication, lying, and stealing. If the phrase “gay Christian†refers to a person who actively, perpetually, and unrepentantly lives a homosexual lifestyle – no, it is not possible for such a person to truly be a Christian.
Vincent K, Atheati Mad Scientist on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
Clearly, God detests human rights violations and demands the legalisation of gay marriage immediately.
punch on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
Maybe it was a hint from god that being gay IS O.K.? Maybe god hit them with that tornado because they were about to vote no.
Pink Satin Pants on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
Sure, why not.
Solly Walks Funny NOR★CAL R&S on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
this just shows that there is a good chance that a group of christians will be worried about gay people on any given day.
NewlyBorn on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
Not really… God was actually hit by the storm!
According to the Priestly Bible writers a positive sign of the return of Jesus Christ that hardly any Christian is willing to discuss is the FULL AND UNCONDITIONAL RESTORATION OF SODOM to the way that it was before it was destroyed! Preachers are PROMOTING HOMOPHOBIA on their own initiative! Some of them are coward gays in the closet like the Reverend Ted Haggard the former US NATIONAL RELIGIOUS ADVISER to President Bush on Christian issues!
God did realize that he made a mistake in dropping the bomb on Sodom. GOD MADE A SWORN STATEMENT THAT HE WILL RESTORE SODOM THE WAY IT WAS…!!! This is fully documented in the portion of “God’s Holy Word†that Christians use for toilet paper!
Ezekiel 16:[48-49], [53], [55] (NIV) [48-49] As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you* (*what JERUSALEM did! Most Christians refuse to agree with God that JERUSALEM IS FAR MORE SINFUL THAN SODOM EVER WAS!) and your daughters have done. â€Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom* (*Christians need to read the Bible more carefully to find out what was wrong with Sodom!): She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy…* (*Neither God the Father nor his ONLY BEGOTTEN Son Jesus Christ EVER MENTIONED THAT THE SIN OF SODOM was homosexuality! Jesus is making favorable statements about SODOM all along –Mat 10:15, 11:24, Mar 6:11, Luc 10:12) [53] "However, I* (*God) WILL RESTORE the fortunes of Sodom and her daughters and of Samaria and her daughters, and your fortunes along with them… [55] And your sisters, SODOM with her daughters and Samaria with her daughters, WILL RETURN TO WHAT THEY WERE BEFORE* (*this is an UNCONDITIONAL RESTORATION of Sodom that homophobic preachers refuse to accept!); and you and your daughters will return to what you were before* (*there is no repentance implied at all here! So the Sodomites didn’t do anything wrong! Sodomy was not the “sin†of Sodom, but careless living! They even got a bad rap on their name, “sodomyâ€).
Jeremiah 13:23 (KJV) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?…
NEVER…! So Jesus never bothered trying to convert a homosexual or a lesbian into a heterosexual, but the preachers made homosexuality the worst “sin†in the Bible! The gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and so on HAVE NO WAY TO CHANGE! Ask the Reverend Ted Haggard! The Jewish Bible writers admit that Jerusalem is far more “sinful†than Sodom ever was! Christians traditionally refuse to believe what GOD says in favor of gays! They feel comfortable with Saint Paul’s hating almost everybody!
The Priestly Bible writers claim that the full restoration of SODOM must be taking place right anytime soon! There is nothing wrong with gays and the same sex marriage issue that we hear today! Christians are passionately AGAINST the fulfillment of Bible prophecies that they don’t like. The old Sodomites were much holier and far more respectful of women than Righteous Lot was. Lot pledged his young virgin daughters for marriage to heterosexual SODOMITES. These honorable citizens of Sodom were not necessarily people enjoying anal sex like the Christians claim otherwise RIGHTEOUS LOT wouldn’t give his daughter for them to marry! These Sodomites believed in virgin “purity†until marriage, too! (Gen 19:14) It was Righteous Lot who took away his own virgin daughters from their heterosexual Sodomite fiances to give them away to some gays looking for the male visitors who came to visit him. Actually these Heavenly “visitors†didn’t come looking for Lot at all! They INSISTED on spending the night out in the main street of Sodom NOT AT ALL at Lot’s pad! (Gen 19:2-3) They obviously knew where the action in Sodom was and they wanted to spend the night in the middle of it, but Lot wanted them all for himself! Abraham never told them that his nephew Lot lived in Sodom at all (Gen 19:12)! The New Testament writers and editors didn’t pay attention to GOD or Jesus about what really happened in Sodom! Anyway, Sodom, if it ever existed was destroyed.
There is something wrong with the Christian definition of morality! Lot’s young virgin daughters knew how to brew good wine to spice up some sex parties with their own daddy Lot until HE GOT THEM PREGNANT! Lot was an old resident of the City of Sodom! He was brought up under the Sodomite culture! GOD DIDN’T REPRIMAND LOT AT ALL, but he was so impressed the way Lot sexually abused his daughters that he called him a RIGHTEOUS MAN throughout the Bible! (2 Pet 2:7-8) The angels of God got Lot and his whole family out of Sodom before it was destroyed! Lot escaped by sheer luck! Christian dishonesty in telling the Bible story of Sodom is no different from the Iranian Ayatollahs reporting the result of the elections. The gays are now paying the price! I am not gay, but I fear for my life telling like it is in the Bible. There is no trace of evidence from any other source outside of the Bible that Sodom ever existed, but let’s assume that it did! The Preachers hurt and persecute the gay community out of sheer bigotry! Now, they are preventing the fulfillment of Bible prophecies about the FULL RESTORATION of Sodom!
BTW, Jesus was SPECIALLY crucified in SODOM for the redemption of all the SODOMITES and to make possible the FULL UNCONDITIONAL RESTORATION OF SODOM TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE ITS DESTRUCTION!
Revelation 11:8 (NIV) And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified* (*Never mind the usual slaughter going on all the time in the Bible… GOD THE SON JESUS CHRIST WAS ALSO CRUCIFIED IN SODOM! Spiritually speaking, of course! What other language do the Christians speak?).
The Book of Revelation in the Bible ends up with the statement that Jesus will be surrounded FOR ALL ETERNITY by 144,000 virgin Jewish guys WHO WERE NEVER DEFILED WITH WOMEN! It doesn’t mean that they were not involved in sexual activities among themselves! BUT THEY NEVER TOUCHED A WOMAN! Men in the South display bumper stickers claiming “Real Men Love Jesus, Too!†They are looking forward to the day that they will be married to Jesus in their much expected “MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB OF GOD†deal in Revelation! Marrying a “Lamb†can be a lot of fun for some kinky guys! So why oppose same sex marriage now of real people loving each other?
Revelation (KJV) 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb* (*Jesus Christ) is come, and his wife* (*the MALE AND FEMALE Christians of the right Church brand) hath made herself ready* (*is it some “same sex†marriage highly favoring 144,000 virgin guys!?).
Revelation 14:4 (NIV) These* (*144,000 Jewish Virgin guys) are those who DID NOT DEFILE THEMSELVES WITH WOMEN* (*No virgin girl is ever reported coming near Jesus, only virgin GUYS!!!) for they kept themselves pure. THEY FOLLOW THE LAMB WHEREVER HE GOES. They were purchased* (*slave talk!) from among MEN and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb* (*aka God the Son Jesus Christ).
The Apocalyptic Revelation of Jesus Christ for the “Last Day Saints†says a lot about Jesus’ sexual orientation! Jesus never accused the homosexuals of anything wrong! In fact he highly favored them over the Jews! That is what the Jewish Bible writers are saying!
Matthew 11:24 (NIV) But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the Day of Judgment than for you."* (*A real judge would never go around disclosing the outcome of any court procedure to low IQ morons, but who gives a hoot. The gay and prostitute loving Gospel writers and editors couldn’t resist telling us all about it!)
Jesus, aka “The RIGHTEOUS Judge of the World†is demonstrating to have much more love and favoritism for the gays, Lesbians and prostitutes than for his own Jewish people! Yet Christians made TO BE gay the worst “sin†in the Bible! In our own lifetime under Christian pressure gays were given electroshock treatment to cure their homosexuality! Christian fear the USA would be destroyed like Sodom if gays were allowed to live.
The preachers and the Clergy are against the homosexuals only because it is popular to be gay bashing, especially among the Mormons! No preacher dares to broadcast the GOOD NEWS THAT THE BIBLE GOD WILL FULLY AND UNCONDITIONALLY RESTORE SODOM TO WHAT THEY WERE BEFORE THEIR DESTRUCTION… and that ought to be any time soon before the end of the world…! And all of God’s people will sing along with Ted Haggard the prophetic spiritual…
"♫♪… And there’ll be peace in the Valley…♪♫♪, Oh YES…!!!♫♪♪"
Spike on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
thats a great article
i’m glad the lutheran church decided to reject organized hatred
christianman on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
In any event, i’m humbling myself before God.
Everard G on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
"While ELCA Lutherans were voting on "Is it OK to be gay?", a Tornado hit the buildling."
"Homosexuality is a sin" was invented to give legality to people who fear-hate Gays.
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Lightning From the East on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
What is so disturbing is that these rabid Atheist answering here are so Flippin Blind to the Obvious, as to those in the Lutheran
Church?
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
They may believe in Jesus and that He is is the Son Of God, well, Even the demons believe that yet are they saved ?
Mat 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!
This is they, and this is what awaits them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-8MJ3Bivw8
Judie(((ST JUDE KIDS))) on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
I just finished reading this a few minutes ago.
Rose on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
I would say no. There are many self-proclaimed christian sinners but tornadoes don’t hit them. This should be very obvious.
☼ GÆ–Æ¡ÏŽ ✞ Ñ ÉªÎ·Ê s ☼ on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
I will answer this from the very depths of my heart.
First of all, who is free of sin, let him cast the first stone.
And…
Pick the log from your own eye before you try to pick out the speck from your brother’s.
I know this is not word verbatim from the Bible but, I am sure y’all understand.
I cannot even begin to judge anyone else with my past sins!
Kevin Thompson on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
You can be who you want to be and do what you want to do…But Far As God and The Bible are Concerned…There will not be one Homosexual in Heaven Unless they Repent and turn from their sin. It is No Different for A Liar, Thief, or Murderer! None one these sins can Enter The Kingdom of God!
Billy Cunningham on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
for real???
Oh wow, I was 50-50 on wether or not hey would go that far,
I think the ELCA is just going to decend into nothing, this was probably thier deal breaker.
Monica V on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
God is everywhere, and nothing happens without his permission.
michaela on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
not necessarily. remember, God loves EVERYONE. Even if the person is gay, lesbian, homosexual or something else, he still loves them. Well, God created the storm, and he knew it was going to hit the building, but he might not have done it because they were voting "is it ok to be gay".
I Block JPA on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
I would not hesitate to call that a "God thing".
Funny how atheists claim there is no God because there is no proof. Then God clearly shows His presence and still they scoff. In fact they even get angry about it. Funny, they say they dont believe, yet such things deeply grieve them.
Tim A on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
And as soon as it passed by the 2/3rds needed, the sun came out from the clouds… The tornado had passed with minor damage to the buildings, and nobody hurt.
Just wanted to make sure you knew the WHOLE story.
Jean †SFECU†pray4revival on September 3, 2010 at 11:41 am
I’d say yes, God was in the storm!!!